8: The Mormon Proposition
8: The Mormon Proposition
| 24 January 2010 (USA)
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Filmmaker and ex-Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints member Reed Cowan examines that church's nationwide efforts to prevent the legalization of gay marriage - including California's Proposition 8, which was passed by voters in 2008. Confidential church documents, statements by high-ranking church officials and other sources detail 30 years of efforts to turn back gay rights, particularly by the Mormon-sponsored National Organization for Marriage.

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Bardlerx

Strictly average movie

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SparkMore

n my opinion it was a great movie with some interesting elements, even though having some plot holes and the ending probably was just too messy and crammed together, but still fun to watch and not your casual movie that is similar to all other ones.

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MusicChat

It's complicated... I really like the directing, acting and writing but, there are issues with the way it's shot that I just can't deny. As much as I love the storytelling and the fantastic performance but, there are also certain scenes that didn't need to exist.

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Fulke

Great example of an old-fashioned, pure-at-heart escapist event movie that doesn't pretend to be anything that it's not and has boat loads of fun being its own ludicrous self.

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thesar-2

My only regret on being homosexual is that it's too obvious that I would be for both gay rights and gay's rights to marry. I would love to be a straight and stand and rally – in fact, I think I would be more "out" per se in the community and show that all should have equal rights.But, alas, I am not heterosexual. God chose not to make me straight. Or did He?Just kidding…of course, I'm not going to believe anyone, especially religious leaders, U.S. Senators or U.S. Senators in religious leader's back pocket like in this documentary, who say I'm confused, wicked or against what a Body of Rich Old White Males determines is right. Heaven forbid if this was 30-40 years ago and I was a black homosexual. Sure, the same rich, white governing body (probably; they look to be 150 in this movie) would prescribe pills to exorcise the flaming male within, but what would they do about my skin color?Is there a cure to skin color? Without even referencing this movie, it's a well known fact that the LDS Church at one time spoke against and violently disavowed peoples of foreign colors. Until, of course, they changed their mind…They WHAT? Changed their minds? Why, did white folk run out of money?I cannot follow a "religion" that CHANGES their minds, especially ones that have the name "Jesus Christ" in their title, for what has changed since Christ was resurrected?On the flip side…#1 I am against the inequality of rights for any human, regardless of color/sexuality, so it's good that they actually changed their bigotry ways. #2: They're weak, if they feel the need to go against all they preached about. So, if this is one weak spot in their gold-plated armor, let's keep chipping. We'll eventually get what we want.BUT…I DIGRESS…and that is exactly one of the biggest problems with the film: it's called "8: The Mormon Proposition" and for the most part it was that. After the election results, it started turning (more) anger against Mormons. And then about suicides and the ugly aftermath directly related to homophobia. And then about homelessness somehow tied to a Parent's rejection in regards to fear of homos. And then about a Senator BUTTars who spewed both racism and homophobia, on the clock. Our tax dollars hard at work, against us.The movie should've had a different title, maybe something as corny as LDS & the GAYS, so it can, in fact, veer off to other topics with ease concerning homophobia and the dollars that make it possible.Overall, however, the movie was well made. I never, ever take any documentaries at face value, so I can't say the entire movie made me anti-Mormon religion; the Church's Elders do a fine enough job on their own. What I do respect is when a filmmaker gives both sides, and they did as good of a job here as I could tell.Not to say it was perfect, but at least I got to hear the opposing ads (and the making of's) and by opposing, if you hadn't figured out yet, I mean "YES on 8." Also, we saw the other side of the picket fence and heard them, as well as that BUTTars (God, that always reminds me of Butters from South Park…) and his Buffoon speech against homosexuals.I must report: this movie does have an agenda, and it is blatantly against the Mormon Church and anyone who (IMHO: Close-minded individuals) voted for Prop 8. So, even though I agree with the director's views, I always welcome a completely unbiased documentary or point of view. Though, I know that's as rare as a kind word from Mel Gibson.There is a lot behind the HATE 8 bill, and I would love to do my own research. That said, all I need to know is: Vote yes – not all humans are equal, Vote no – and we can evolve as man AND woman kind has done in the past.My question is: why would any entity spend MILLIONS upon MILLIONS and preach and guilt trip people (that part I know is true) into giving into such a stance against one so-called SIN? What's more of a SIN? Wasting people's tithing on this, or spreading it around to where it's REALLY needed? And how can anyone celebrate this "victory" when Prop 8 won in 2008? Man, I hope the next generations don't look upon those recordings with the same disbelief and hatred as I do, when I watch the old "KKK" celebrations.I'm glad Prop 8's back in the news. I'm glad it's going to go to the Supreme Court. And I'm hoping they will be looking at it more closely when it comes to the LAW and not RELIGION. Isn't that what the courts and judges supposed to be deciphering? Fact over Feeling? I shouldn't say this movie should be seen by all since it's so completely biased, but I would recommend it, at least, so you can see what some of the results were when people vote blindly.SIDE NOTE: Yes, I'm aware almost this entire review was preached on my own pedestal. This is an opinion piece, mind you, so of course, I am going to give my views. That all said, I still tried to voice my concerns about one-sidedness and the fact no one, including myself, should blindly believe everything shoved into their faces.SIDE NOTE 2: Earlier I regretted that I couldn't be a STR8-AGAINST-8, but furthermore, I regret I both didn't live in CA during this time, not so long ago. I would have loved to be approached by Mormons, with ties or "just regular joes" and hear what they had to say. I would've had a field day. They might have not, however.

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jc_highdesert

I didn't even watch the show and just from the preview I can see things are taken out of context and clips are from anti literature. If people actually believe this kind of one side garbage they should be ashamed. Besides I think there are a few more denominations that spoke out for Prop 8 and for what they believe in. Why single out the Mormons, talk about racism, take a look in the mirror. Seems like the film focuses on money that the Church spent on proposition 8. Who cares, unless your paying the church out of your own pocket what's it matter to you. Beside the receipts they show could easily be falsified or going to some charity. It's funny how people will believe anything they see on a screen. What a joke, it's to bad people even have to be like this just accept that people are different and accept then for who they are, right or wrong.

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John Frame

Carla Smith Holloway writes a fantastic review - I agree completely.In 2004 Australia's conservative dominated federal government, with the scandalous full support of the "liberal" opposing party, marched hand in hand with George W Bush by amending the Marriage Act to specifically exclude same sex couples.Six years later, with a change of governing party, there's at least a possibility of marriage equality, but some Australian LGBT activists are being complicit in their own persecution by suggesting they might accept civil unions, rather than fight for marriage equality. I challenge them and any rational person to watch this film and yet fail to realise that marriage equality is a necessity as an option for all - not a pipe dream, nor a nicety.While our Federal Law defines that we deserve discrimination, the Churches who hate us will continue to feel vindicated in active oppression, and too many youth will be rejected, or feel rejected, will self-harm or suicide, as a direct result."8: The Mormon Proposition" affirms that it's a case of you're either on the side of equality, which includes equality in marriage rights, or you're on the side of the bigots and must accept partial blame for all the harm caused by their intolerance.This film will do good wherever it is viewed in the world.

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MovieMan250

I saw this film at a screening in Park City during the Sundance Film Festival in January of 2010. Admittedly, I am LDS and I identify as a gay man. Obviously, this is a movie that I wanted to see because I had these two elements of my life fighting with each other, both in private (in my own mind) and in public (LDS Church vs. the anti-Proposition 8 movement). First of all, the movie definitely has an agenda. However, the title does not lie; sometimes the truth hurts. Being involved in both of these communities fairly actively, I can tell you that this movie brings the truth about Proposition 8 to light. Where the film crosses the line is in its sometimes sensationalistic portrayal, in how the facts are presented to the audience. The truth is presented, but not in the best way or method. Reed Cowan (director) did try to interview LDS Church officials and spokespeople, but his requests were either denied or ignored. Can people really blame him for this? Criticisms of his film being "too biased" are without knowledge of this fact. A lot has to be said for the documents from the 1990's proving that the anti-gay marriage group in Hawaii was created, staffed, and funded through Mormon means. It may all have been done legally, but that doesn't mean that it was right or moral. A lot of criticism of the film points to the "picking-and-choosing" of which phrases from these documents were highlighted on screen and pointed out to the viewer. This is easily remedied: to see the documents, simply go to "Mormon Gate dot com" and read them. The documents speak for themselves.

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