Zeitgeist: Moving Forward
Zeitgeist: Moving Forward
| 15 January 2011 (USA)
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A presentation of a case for a needed transition out of the current socioeconomic monetary paradigm which governs the entire world society. This subject matter will transcend the issues of cultural relativism and traditional ideology and move to relate the core, empirical 'life ground' attributes of human and social survival, extrapolating those immutable natural laws into a new sustainable social paradigm called a 'Resource-Based Economy'.

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Incannerax

What a waste of my time!!!

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Tedfoldol

everything you have heard about this movie is true.

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Intcatinfo

A Masterpiece!

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Brenda

The plot isn't so bad, but the pace of storytelling is too slow which makes people bored. Certain moments are so obvious and unnecessary for the main plot. I would've fast-forwarded those moments if it was an online streaming. The ending looks like implying a sequel, not sure if this movie will get one

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ironhorse_iv

Zeitgeist: Moving forward is the third installment in Peter Joseph's Zeitgeist film trilogy after 2007's Zeitgeist & 2008's Zeitgeist: Addendum. It's by far, the most well rounded of the three films. It didn't seem, like it was going too far into the messy and very chaotic unclear paranoia conspiracy theories like the previous films. It's seem, much grounded with its facts and how to tell them. It had some structure, a sense of order. It didn't felt like a mindless rant. It was indeed a well-made movie that seem to flow factual. The first half of the film explains the problems of our society, while the second half explains a positive solution to those problems. It's very simple, when you think, about it. The movie brings the complexity of society, down a level, to make it, a little more understandable. The film is arranged into four parts. Each part, discuss how the current world wide situation is disastrous. Part I: Human Nature, discuss human behavior when it comes to the nature vs. nurture debate. The overall conclusion tells us, that negative social environment and cultural conditioning does play a large part in shaping human behavior! Part II: Social Pathology, adds to it, saying that capitalism system is that unhealthy factor, because it makes people feel anxiety, feel inequality toward each other, and most of all, create over consumption. The film continues to state out, that current attitude of the monetary system would only result in future default and bankrupts. I agree with most of what's said, but I have to add to it, that other economic systems such as communism & fascism, feed worst unhealthy life choices. To say, that capitalism is the worst one, is pretty headstrong, there. It's Part 3: Project Earth, where the film gets kinda tricky with its approach. The film rehash, the same retelling of why the "resource-based economy" by American futurist and self-described social engineer Jacque Fresco is the best choice. I get it! I have studied economics in a post graduate level, and come to accept RBE to be a viable alternative. What the film fails to show, is how we get from a capitalism society, into a resource-based economy. It really needed to discuss, in a more realistic economic tone, how we could start to change our ways into a resource-based economy. In my opinion, Syndicalism or Georgism economic beliefs, might make the transformation, a lot smoother. Another problem with a resource based economy is the fact that most people would still operate in a monetary aesthete greedy fashion. While, ethicist type people might find this life, great. Aesthete people that makes up the majority of society, would be bored, always wanting something new. The whole idea of trying to eliminate external restriction AKA ownership might rattle these beliefs, causing people to try to gain more control on their own lives. Yes, ownership is wasteful, at times, but fortunately, human beings love wasting time and effect on illogic things. While, strategic access, does work, within a means. It does not solve, everything. Not everybody lives within, a Jacque Fresco perfect circle. Honestly, how are we supposed to build, these cities in regions, where resources are just way too hard to come by? We can't use money, that's for sure! This is one of the problems with Jacque Fresco. Jacque Fresco is hardly the person to tell people that this sh*t, need to go; when he, himself, often fund, his Venus Project with money, rather than volunteers. It's very hypocritical. Another problem is the science, it proposed to use. The science to maintain a resourced-based economy has far more assumptions built in to it, than results, both in human nature & economics sciences. In conclusions, these notions that science will save society is a gross error. Despite, not being religionist driven project, the idea of having a god-like computer control one-life, based on polls and surveys of others is very scary thought. It eliminate the idea of one, self-worth. Surely, such powers might be abused from the inception to control the masses. I really doubt, people would give up, their limited freedoms, for no freedoms. Another problem is that RBE is based upon the argument that scarcity is artificial, which is absolutely, breathtakingly wrong. Scarcity happens. If a resource-based economy was to happen, tomorrow, the technology for it, wouldn't be ready. In many ways, it might not, be ready if it did. I really wish, the movie would offer, something more solid to make it easier for people to abandon, the capitalism system. I also think the movie gives a lot of credit to Jacque Fresco for create this socioeconomic system. Resourced- based economy isn't new. In many ways, its sounds like natural socialism. A concept, older than Marxism, himself. Part IV: Rise, presented a case that pollution, deforestation, climate change, overpopulation, and warfare are all created and perpetuated by the socioeconomic system. I found this part, to be interesting. Sadly, the movie had to ruin it, with it's over the top ending, with a 6 or 7 minute long vignette that shows a bunch of people drawing all of their money out of the banks and throwing it away in order to show that they don't need the global economy to live. While, it was made to look powerful, I really found it, cheesy. I have to say, as a whole movie, it was very well done. The interviewers, narration and animated sequences were amazing to watch, due to how informative, it was. The run time might be a little too long, but there were hardly any slow spots. It's by far, the most entertaining of the three films, due to the film, mixing humor, and dramatic, so well. Overall: It's a must watch!

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Peter April

Great documentary. If you are very educated person with open mind without rigid, automatic thinking and you can think out of the box you will love this movie. If you aren't then this movie will be a harsh attack on your ego and the illusionary personality it created. You will hate it...As shown in documentary identification/attachment to illusionary mental concepts of religion, ideology, status, wealth, race, nationality, country and other similar is caused by a lack of control over one's mind. Identifications with such fleeting mental concepts are only possible when a person's mind is not open and has become very rigid. Such identifications/attachments have proved to be extremely dangerous and destructive to all life on this planet. The madness of human mind can be clearly seen on global scale. What has been happening around the world is a direct projection of all individual minds of all people. The history of human kind is a history of mental illness. If you look at the history of human kind using medical criteria you would come up with a diagnosis of severely psychopathic mental disorder. Considering the current state of life on our planet projection of such mental attitude is no longer acceptable...

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rick_barnes

In pure cinematic terms this is an 'OK' movie. In terms of the message that it contains, it cannot be rated highly enough - hence the 10 stars.In my humble opinion, this movie presents a real world solution to the awful mess the world has got itself into through the short-sighted, abuse of technology combined with a very corrupt and distorted monetary system. Peter Joseph who directs, produces, narrates, etc, etc... could be the next saviour of the planet. This is a profound statement but, having repeatedly viewed his 2 previous movies and observed first hand what is going on in so many countries, I believe it to be true.The observations and concepts extolled in this movie take a bit of getting your head around especially if they are not familiar. We have all developed our beliefs through social conditioning but, if you can suspend belief and think outside the box without prejudice, the answers to most of worlds social and economic problems are there.The previous 2 Zeitgeist movies are more contentious in their format but provide more supporting evidence to back up the claims made in this movie. The best news is that, just as we are witnessing in the Middle East right now, the power to bring about the necessary changes without violence is possible with a shift in mindset and is in the hands of the ordinary people.I strongly urge you to watch all of the Zeitgeist movies for the sake of future generations.

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Sa Ahm

Watched it few hours ago. followed all three parts of it. had a good bunch of great thought provoking stuffs, blended along with some severely argumentative illusions that i might not adopt. a ton of questions floating in my mind trying to reveal feasible answers coping with their arguments, remained inconclusive still. i remember i emailed a bunch of relevant and serious questions regarding earlier parts long time ago, still impounded with no logical answers till date. i hate current imperialistic monetary-market system as they do; still some part of me telling me to like the zeitgeist ideas and the other logically arguing not to. just few of my large chunk of new questions might be(some might say i am tripping...lol!): 1. the current imperialistic monetary-market system owners have history of demolishing every entity that might stand in their way. if some of you are threat enough to them, why they have not taken any strong action on or eliminated zeitgeist (or julian assange, or alex jones or few such more) yet?!?? with due respect, sorry to say that you guys haven't showed much about that the world doesn't already know. are you just alternative strategic deployed players of their potential single New World Order system?!? are they strategically implanting relevant key players in both sides of the game to ensure a win?! 2. how different are, 'a world with many countries' and 'a world with many cities'?! mirror reflection as it seems. 3. 'global resource management system'...who would be in control of that management system and what would be the management hierarchy?! we all know, all decisional opinions can not be singular, so someone has to decide; who would that be?! we also know, money has no intrinsic value of itself; don't you think the singular power and control on 'global resource management system' would have some significant intrinsic value?! how to decide who to lead when?! the 'democracy' again...:)?! wouldn't that be another scam of politics?! 4. who gets to eat caviar or only potatoes...hang luxury art piece or mere calendar on wall...watch entertaining movies on 100inch plasma TV or just able to watch boring news on 20inch crt TV...sail to world tour or only can view sunset from rooftop...who decides about the quality and quantity of final products each can consume?! inequality doesn't depend on only as monetary disparity, but also on consumption opportunities. 5. what if there is large permanent migrations between these modern so called 'cities' resulting in overcrowding and underpopulation among different cities!? how to decide who lives where!? 6. i could not find or rely on a number of statistical facts it's given. moreover, it talked about if a hypothetical similar new earth found...which is not available realistically; rather in this current world, enough damage is already done to create a significant natural imbalance among various regions. how to regain dynamic equilibrium in this already unbalanced natural world as 'Nature is a dictatorship' itself!?there could be many more to clarify...but no offence...i have been a major encouraging initiator for any positive change as always among my peers and students. however, i believe in the saying, "hope for the best, but plan for the worst." :) :)

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